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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:57 pm    Post subject: The Natural Philosophy Thread Reply with quote

I realized in the What is Nothing? thread that I'm not much of a philospher.  However, I do love me some science (aka, Natural Philosphy) and thought I'd start a thread where we could ask questions about physics and stuff.

Any takers?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like matter, energy, and how they interact?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a good one to start out with... I could explain pretty easily the whole E=mc(squared) thing if you guys want.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I seriously doubt my ability to contribute anything worthwhile..but I would DEFINATELY be interested in reading what you guys have to say!  I have never been good at philosophy (natural or other) discussions per se, but I thoroughly enjoy reading it all!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LurkingGrue wrote:
I could explain pretty easily the whole E=mc(squared) thing if you guys want.
Go for it!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LurkingGrue wrote:
That's a good one to start out with... I could explain pretty easily the whole E=mc(squared) thing if you guys want.

love to hear it because i certainly dont get it
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's starts with a bit of chemistry, specifically atoms.

Hydrogen's a great place to start.  It's the first element, consisting of one proton in the middle (the nucleus) and a single electron spinning around it.  The next heaviest element is Helium.  It's got two protons in its middle, with two electrons.

Move all the way up to uranium.  It's a big ugly bastard with 92 protons plus up to 146 neutrons in its nucleus with a small army of electrons spinning around it.  The nucleus is so big that it's essentially not held together that well and occasionally a couple protons will say to hell with it and eject out of the atom.  So the uranium atom spits out a helium atom and changes to thorium (two steps down from uranium).

That's basically what a radioactive matieral is... an atom so big it's not that stable and, over a long enough period of time a given sample of the material (consisting of a whole whack of atoms) will entirely change into a different material.  (aside: a "nuclear half-life" is the time it would take for half of a given sample of radioactive material to degrade into the next element down the road - sometimes that's hundreds of years).

With nuclear energy we take uranium atoms (or some other heavy atom like plutonium) and actually smash them apart by firing a smaller particle - usually a single neutron - through it.  The resulting split is two separate atoms (wikipedia says a Barium atom and a Krypton atom), plus a pantload of energy (like, say, a nuclear bomb).

Here's the thing... if you added the mass of the two separate atoms, you DON'T get the same mass as the uranium atom you started out with.  A fraction of the mass is destroyed.

That's where the E=mc(squared) comes in.

E = Energy
m= mass
c = the speed of light

Basically, the mass gets converted into energy.  Because c(squared) is such a huge number, you can have a mass loss be very small and still get an enourmous amount of energy.

For instance, in the average yearly operation of a nuclear power plant, you will lose about six to eight ounces of matter.

I'm gonna cut this off here, but if I didn't explain that well I'll be happy to clarify.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the more you know
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very cool.

LurkingGrue wrote:
That's a good one to start out with... I could explain pretty easily the whole E=mc(squared) thing if you guys want.

What's next?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Natural Philosophy Alliance

I found the links for: NPA Principles and Our Minimum Consensus to be interesting.



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